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Yale’s offensive talent is similar to the 2006 2007 Yale team. A mobile quarterback who was not a good passer and a tremendous backfield..What did Sidliecki do? He ran., ran and ran some more . The result was a 17- 3. record. why can’t Yale’s current coaching staff figure this out?

A lot of people have been asking for the wishbone to be implemented. Personally I don’t think that Reno and Cahill can figure it out. A pathetic game plan today.

The most crucial play was basically a broken play scramble by Grooms, but apparently called! (And failed). Sorry that I can’t refer to the exact play, but maybe someone else knows.

The only thing that stopped Yale’s running game was Yale’s passing game and illegal procedure penalties. Whoever calls the Offensive Plays needs to be ordered to run more. The Offensive play calling was the worst I can remember in a long time.

What good team has Penn beaten? Yale is not a good team. Yale made Bucknell’s defense look good.

Mediocre. They will lose their last two. It’s a down year for the league as a whole. Only Princeton is good.

It’s called parity son, parity. Any team can beat any team on any given game day if the team has any semblance of a decent game plan. They can win with Discipline and Execution.
Not throwing the ball, with a 7 point lead with under a minute to play before halftime. Unless your a moron

I hope Reno will finally face reality and start a platoon at quarterback starting next week at Columbia. One more loss and Yale is virtually eliminated. Action to address the offensive deficiencies must be taken now.

Does anyone have the yard line, time on the clock, and time outs left for Yale before the I’ll-fated INT at the end of the 1st half? Given the first half, what was the probability of Yale’s scoring?

Yale took over on their own 42 with 37 seconds left. They had just scored TD, then stopped Penn cold. Trying to drive for a FG was not a terrible decision. It was a terrible outcome. Grooms was surrounded and should have just gone down or run the ball. I’m not even sure who he was throwing to.

Gentlemen; after howling at the moon for a half hour or so I have to admit very frustrating is over this latest contest with the quakers. firstly, Coach Reno is still a D student after all of these years regarding game day management because even though it may be perceived as Monday morning quarterbacking he should’ve kicked a field goal during their first possession and sat on the ball at the end of the second half because number 12 passing is indecisive, inaccurate and otherwise unpredictable. The score at halftime should’ve been our blue 13 to 3. Coach Reno should understand this and would not disagree. At this point it should be clear to give another signal caller a chance at least through the first half of the next lion contest to see what they can do . In closing the offensive coordinators play calling on crucial Downs was Abominable at best a f plus maybe because he was limited to throws number 12 can make.

Good coaches know their players, and their teams, strengths and weaknesses. Too often our players seemingly are not put in the best situation to succeed.

Mr. Old Blue, Reno Never takes the blame not accountability on a loss . He’s a Passive aggressive Narcissist.
If you go to a practice, God forbid., he has one of his cronies come after you to leave. It’s not that the spectator will Divulge information to Teevens, Murphy, Surace, Bagnoli or anyone else. His arrogance is his Demise.

Let’s take stock.
Even with the injuries, our defense is better than in recent years.
Running the ball is our strength.
Special teams are okay.
Close games usually come down to quarterback play. Their quarterback passed for 300 yards and 0 interceptions. Ours passed for 100 yards and 1 game changing interception.
Give Mr Grooms a handful of running plays as a change of pace and try one our other quarterbacks as a game manager.
The Columbia and Brown games are winnable.
Try it!

Gentlemen; it is not my position in life to be overly critical of anyone but to simply present one man’s opinion albeit speaking on the obvious coaching blew this game. Number 12 has one pitch a fade to the left side line outside of being in the old days a single Wingtail back. Our blue team does not seem to be built for a single wing formation consequently if there is a true passer on the squad coach Reno should give them a shot at the upcoming lion contest. It’s a simple as that if there is any chance to beat the Cantab‘s and the Tigers We need to find that option.

Going back to the last play of the 2nd half – from Yale’s 42, they would have to get to the Penn 30 for a Bosman 47 yard (not automatic) FG right? Did they have any TOs left.? Their passing yards/attempt for the game was 6.6 and rushing 5.2. So they were going to gain 28 yards to get into position to kick a FG on how many plays? Fantasy!

Yale had one TO left, plus the clock stops on a first down. I think you take a shot on 1st down. Easy to second guess, but I think in that exact same situation, an interception, AT THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE, happens one out of a thousand times. Unfortunately, this was that time.

This is football and you have to take advantage of the field position at our 42 with a time out & 37 seconds remaining with only a 7 point lead as only need 28 yards for a FG before half.! #12 should have tried to hit #16 on the 15 yard out route as it’s either completed – or incomplete out of bounds. You cannot in that situation throw over the middle short!! But most egregious was not taking 3 after Penn gifted us ball at their 22 – the first points in any game are significant as sets the stage for remainder of half where we should have been no worse than 13-3! In summary, we were out coached as Penn consistently put #7/#13/#19/#87 and #21 in space with the ball to be able to make plays.

What in gods green earth our our offense coaching doing with all this talent on offense?

I just wanna get to Thanksgiving, without having coronary. This team is very hard to watch. Nothing is ever easy or lasting. Look we all have bad days. So far this has been lucky to not be worse than 4-2.
This team has the horses to play with any of these teams. But they HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO STEP ON AND OPPONENTS THROAT. WIN CONVINCINGLY . They have 4 More chances. To clear up these mental errors. To the coaches, how about Dos for dumbass mentally challenged Coaches
Good Night It’ll get better in 2023

My best guess is that both #9 and #11 have suffered season ending knee injuries.

Defense played OK. Offense failed to capitalize on opportunities, as deviating from the proven success of the running game proved fatal.

Judging from the game, I suspect that #66 is dealing with a lower leg injury, possibly a sprained knee or ankle. Played weak and afraid. Penn Defensive Tackles #17 and #98 dominated at the point of attack on multiple occasions.

Buckle up folks: it’s going to be a long 4 games. Hopefully the team can capitalize on the talents of Peterson and Pitzenberger. Perhaps instituting a platooning QB system, like Dartmouth. Maybe putting #87 as a wildcat QB?

Think we can round up a nice NIL package to get him to follow in Morgan Roberts’s footsteps?

It seems as it’s tie to get a new look at QB. I hear this kid Brogan McCaughey can throw the ball. Is he the best option moving forward?

#6 Tutus is as well demonstrated in the Cornell game. Reno has a problem in identifying talent, when to use it. Great positional Coach not a as a Head coach very indecisive. Not a good gut check. If it’s a close game Yale will lose .

Penn isn’t better than Yale right now personnel wise but they’re scheme is superior. They emptied the playbook for the homecoming win – double pass, jump pass, QB throwback. All were well executed and big, momentum driving plays. Trick plays might’ve been the difference. It felt like on a neutral field yale wins a majority of games versus that penn team. So that sucked.

Anyone else think the penn qb might’ve been losing that ball on the way down on the sack on the five that could’ve been a strip 6? Officials were awful quick to blow that dead. The ground certainly helped remove the ball from his control, but did the ground “cause the fumble”? I’m not so sure.

Bulldog LB, I share your concern with the officials’ failure to review the sack for a fumble. A strip 6 would have given the game to Yale in all likelihood.

Agree. Nothing is more frustrating when you lose to a team that you are more talented than. One thing that has always troubled me is the techniques of our defensive backs. And that’s supposed to be Tony’s specialty!

By all means Yale has the players to compete and excel. But the coaching is inept . Not having the correct schemes to compliment the talent.
It’s been like that for a long time, it’s not going to change any time soon. What it comes down to. Yale doesn’t care so why do I.? Thank you Tony Reno, A special one finger salute to Vicky Chun and the entire Yale administration

Weren’t we expressing frustration last year over the qb situation after the Dartmouth and UConn losses. Seems to me there was a great deal of dissatisfaction over alternating between O’Connor and Grooms. Trying to emulate Teevens wasn’t working and I doubt it would work now. Most of us were very pleased when Reno decided on sticking with Grooms at qb and his performance overall was very satisfying despite the losses to Princeton and Harvard. Grooms looked impressive and showed the potential to be a top Ivy talent. What happened? O’Connor left the team and Grooms has under performed. I don’t believe we should try to alternate qbs again and I don’t think the back ups have enough experience to just step in and successfully replace Grooms. However the coaches should definitely find ways of giving Tutas and or McCaughey more playing time in preparation for next season. As for this season’s remaining games it is imperative for Reno to come up with better game plans for Yale’s running game including springing some plays with the qb over center. As far as the passing attack, it starts with better protection for the qb; Grooms has been constantly under pressure when he throws. The same will occur no matter who starts at qb unless the line improves this part of their game.

By the way, to all the potential recruits out there thinking about going to Yale. We are all just frustrated fans venting after a loss. Yale is still by far the best school in the Ivy League to attend for the combination of a great education and a top notch experience on the football field.

There is no place to play better than the Yale Bowl and Yale is always ahead of the rest of the league in out of conference scheduling. You will never regret your decision to attend the finest university in the world.

If you’re ever looking for a new coach check out Eric Koehler, offensive coordinator at Miami of Ohio – the cradle of coaches .

Yale has a major quarterback issue. Grrooms is way too up and down and there doesn’t seem to be much of another answer. My vote is to go to the freshman McCaughey. Big time recruit and all the other options seem pedestrian.

Haven’t we learned that our coaches can’t think on their feet? The extended break in the PA game gave them time to rethink/rewrite the entire script. With them at the helm and without truly exceptional talent, we are doomed to continued mediocrity.

LET V your singing to the choir, it’s cruel joke. That never gets remedied. Reno , and his staff are inept.
You can have all the talent you want or need. But you also need to able to teach an develop. He is not able too

Gentlemen; after due consideration I must agree with Mr. remember it well although unfortunate as it may seem it is sink or swim with number 12. The next two contests against the Lions and Bears should provide an opportunity to allow another signal caller to get some playing time and see what they can do. To my recollection Mr. O’Connor as a freshman entered the bear contest without playing a single down and performed quite well. The offensive coordinator needs to get off the couch and prepare a game plan/scheme that accommodates number 12 skill set and provides an opportunity for our halfbacks to succeed.

Exactly. Like the strategy they used against Dartmouth. Our O line is one of the best in the league. Use that and the strengths of Grooms to your advantage!

Playing Devil’s Advocate…I rarely fault a coaching staff opting for the kill shot in a judgement call situation. Both first half decisions were more failures of execution rather than decision-making, in my opinion.
Taking the early FG would certainly have been the logical choice, so going for it on 4th down can be questioned. But if the play was executed better, it looks like a gutsy but smart call.
Had Yale taken a knee before halftime, people would be complaining about the timid coaching decisions and lack of faith in the offense to move the ball 30 yards with enough time for 5 or so plays, thus leaving points unscored. Again, with better execution, the game isn’t tied at halftime.
There’s plenty to nitpick regarding the coaching staff, I just don’t think those two decisions are among them.

Watching the Patriots games, Jones was cold not moving the team. What did Belichek do.? HE TOOK OUT JONES, PUT IN THE 2nd string QB Zappe, they got a TD. Now that’s a coach.

Even though the Yale defense has played pretty well it hasn’t seemed like we force many turnovers. Or at least certainly not as many turnovers as our offense coughs up. According to the FCS stats, Yale is -7 in turnover margin tied, ironically with Harvard, for 114th out of 123 FCS teams.

Realistically, Reno seems to recruit well. However, except for the two years he had Rawlings (along with great receivers and running backs), his record has been pretty mediocre at Yale. It’s also hard to remember when he’s really had a great defense.

2017 defense was pretty stout (Foye, Oplinger, Rymiszewski, Mullen, Carlson, many others) – held half the opponents to 10 points or less. But, your point is well-taken. Reno succeeds when exceptional talent is available. Otherwise, it’s “Forever 4-3.”

The turnover situation this year is problematic – particularly the 9 interceptions thrown. On the bright side, it seems like the penalty situation is under control this year (knock on wood). That’s been a pain point for years.

Development has always been Reno’s main issue. So many players come in and play a ton early as freshmen and sophomores and then flame out. Part of that is Reno being enticed by the shiny new freshman and the other is a lack of consistent development

The fact that there aren’t many shiny new freshmen (and sophomores) playing this year — aside Pitsenberger — does not speak well for the recruiting job done in the past year or two. Apparently, not much shine to catch Coach’s eye.

There is enough talent there to compete with anyone in the Ivy League.

They need to play better and coach better and things will be alright, starting with the next two games. If we can beat those teams and gain a little confidence, who knows?

I agree with this 100% David. Protect the ball, stop the foolish mistakes, stupid penalties. They will be fine.

I was watching Some Yale football, YouTube clips, from the 70’s Nothing from The early 70’s . Dick Jauron, Tommy Doyle, Rudy Green. Does Yale even have them available.?

There used to be highlight films put out every year. Dick Galiette would be the narrator. I purchased a few video tapes when VCR’s came in to existence and still have them. You had to buy them from a camera shop in New Haven. So highlights do exist for those years.

James Camera Shop. Driven out of business by digital imaging. I had seen some of the early-70’s highlight films, wish I had access to them now. Jauron was amazing.

In YouTube search on “1967 Yale Harvard” (not 1968!!!), to see several plays from that game, including a very fun and exciting Dowling-to-Hill TD play.

Oso named finalist for prestigious William V. Campbell Trophy. Finalists receive an $18,000 scholarship for graduate school. He want to go to medical school and become an oncologist. Good for him and congratulations, Oso!

Those interested in effective DB coaching should read the October 26 piece about Bobby Crockett on Big Green Alert.

Thanks, Quinn. Yes, McCorkle looks really impressive, and should Tony wish to return to his first love, teaching and research, I’d be happy to cast a vote for McCorkle.

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